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If you did you still wouldn't match Jev on price and speed though. it's orders of magnitude

The lens is big but the phone is still the same size.

Isn't the US literally the only country to ever use a nuke against humans?

There are specific laws called Piercing the Veil that can easily be passed to close this type of loophole.

Courts are run by people, not AI, so judges can easily ignore the corporate entity once these laws are passed.


Piercing the corporate veil is difficult to do in practice unless they've gotten very sloppy.

If they see people doing exactly what was described to avoid fines I think they will amend the law to explicitly allow piercing the veil. Just like for directors

Sounds good in theory, what's the practical reality in your experience?

https://www.holdingredlich.com/federal-court-decision-pierce...

This is an example (I have nothing to do with this case)


Doesn't seem out of reach of AI. Not sure why you think so.

I think you're speaking like a software engineer, which is understandable, and not like a historian or economist. There's no reason to believe math based jobs would survive. The models regularly do well on math problems. You can auto-research loop ways to optimize memory usage for any particular program.

The point isn't that "doing math" is safe. Auto-research solves one target variable in one system, doing it at scale where say one developer is SME for the agentically manged 200 microservices down the line, heh I mean you certainly can, but good luck with that token cost of auto-research when that problem space is O(microservice^2). I point at that example yesterday of that optimized database memory with the comments pointing out that the specific problem fit in memory, over optimized and didn't generalize. The problem isn't the work, but the rework. A historian should know that new solutions to problems doesn't lead to "no problems ever again" but only problems with barriers that the new solution doesn't solve.

The argument is probably that LLMs can find those optimizations cheaper than a human expert. Since LLM cost at fixed capability seems to be going down you either expect humans to be completely replaced or human wages to be lowered by LLMs.

I expect average human wages for programming to get lower and the overall percentage of the developer to move lower wage countries and this probably means away from the US and US salary expectations. Meat proxies and agentic CRUD will be off-shored to low wage Asian or even African countries with AI handling language barriers. Why wouldn't they be? Why pay six figures for a meat proxy? Product Builders should weather the storm the most, but they'll be the high end skilled PMs/engineers that of the overall industry but probably won't break 10% of total global headcount. In a world where knowing the domain will be the key driver of differentiation, as building averages out and knowing the customer and how to market to them becomes the differentiator, being closer to the target market will fragment competition from four global winners with over 10k employees in a space to 100 niche/regionally tailored winners with maybe 500 employees a piece. Not to mention if you thought GDPR was a pain, wait until AI laws that vary by country to country get added in.

I also expect as AI becomes more cost sensitive once the quality plateaus (there's only so many ways to get an answer to 100% right), the data centers are going to chase where the cheap power is, and this long term is likely to be in high-solar locations. So lower latitudes. Doesn't rule out places like Texas of course, but places like India, Mexico, Brazil, Israel or Saudi Arabia will have home field advantages.


You can't just look at the per token cost, but how many tokens it takes on average to do a task. The difference can be massive.

True, but it would have to be more than massive (order(s) of magnitude) to offset that gap.

On some benchmarks models like Qwen 3.8 Max which cost < $6/m out cost more than Astra 6 to run at $50/m out. That’s a huge price gap and yet Astra would be cheaper if your work looks like the benchmark.

We notice with frontier models like Astra and Fable that one might use a lot less tokens than the other to complete the task thereby being the better deal in spite of the far higher token cost.

What is Astra $/task?

Even if OpenAI end up using 1 token for per task, if the token costs 1M$ , some people will find it expensive.


https://artificialanalysis.ai/#intelligence-comparison-tabs

Astra on xhigh has a cost per task of $2.31 with an intelligence index of 53. Qwen3.8 Max has a cost per task of $5.41 with an intelligence index of 45. Pricing for GPT-6 Astra (xhigh) is $10.00 per 1M input tokens and $50.00 per 1M output tokens. Pricing for Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is $2.00 per 1M input tokens and $6.00 per 1M output tokens.

Obviously this is just one measure of all of this (and Qwen 3.8 Omni Flash isn't yet available), but I think this illustrates the point well. These relative task costs are pretty consistent across different analysts. Cost per token is arguably a useless measure at this point in most circumstances.


Also cache write/read cost + cache efficiency.

Yes, for fun I tried OVH AI Endpoint and they do not have cache read at all. They bill you every time you send a prompt regardless if you are hit cache or not. One agent session was like 80M input and 300K output and I paid 30$ for that. Or rather I interrupted it and let my local Qwen finish it because cost was getting radicoulous.

I know, but it's a good enough proxy.

But it's not lol

If Gemini can complete a task for $1 and Qwen completes that same task for $1, then the cost per token is irrelevant in most use-cases. One would think this stuff should correlate well enough that you can use it as a proxy, but I think a lot of people are noticing this is a serious mistake and that these "cheap" models aren't as cheap as they appear when you consider this.


You point is valid for textual LLM, with large CoT, not Omni which will respond quick with a voice. In this case, token price is a good enough proxy.

What matter the most and isn't told by token price is the latency. You expect a voice LLM to respond very quick. If it takes 5s to response to a simple "Hello, what the weather today?", them not much people will use it.


It's the same problem as trying to buy a car or choose what clothes to buy. You just have to read about options, try things out.

They get paid for the reviews probably

Can't use power banks on many flights now

Anecdotal, but on the last few flights that I've taken. I was told that you can use them, but you can't charge them on the flight. This was inside the US, American Airlines, and United. I can't speak to the other airlines.

I believe the restriction is on charging devices out of sight (in luggage, seatback pockets etc).

Depends on the airline and jurisdiction.

I did a task that cost about $1.5 on API. It was 4 million tokens. That will take about 2.9 years at this rate.

Estimating an electricity cost in the three digits


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